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"As governments grow in size, scope, and power, the more important it becomes to be in its good graces, or to try to coopt its extra-legal power for your own special interest."

Speaking of "Coopting government power for special interests"

You gotta read this:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/26793903/the_big_takeover/1

"Scott asked why I was so scared of Socialism, and then threw out some statistics in regard to literacy rates and healthcare in some socialistic countries"

Scott here. Choke, you are trippin...put down the glass pipe..I Didnt throw out stats about litercy or health care...read our own blog. I'll tell you why you are trippin. It is because the oil and gas business has been 100% right wing ++, and now you have a blog with the real people involved in the business and you find out that 60% of us have had enough of the right wing Christian bullshit, and we are declaring a socialist revolution. Scary hugh? Like Bob Dylan said...the times are a changin.. We are in the oil business and every other segment of American life….Check out this link from the Christian Science Monitor if you have any doubt….HERE WE COME…http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0310/p09s01-coop.html

"we are declaring a socialist revolution."

Like I said: "...they are both ...willing to pull out (an infants) arms and legs to prevent the other side from saving it."


OK.. Fred you write some very sensible stuff. Educate me. Where is the middle ground? What do you advocate? Let me be clear. I am a dedicated socialist. I understand the oil business and clearly support socialization of E&P. Oh, by the way, did you read my link to the Christian Science Monitor?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0310/p09s01-coop.html
The CSM is correct. This is where America is headed. Choke will be fine under socialization of the oil business. I will support his effort to get a union card. Now the REAL oil men in the board rooms may not fare so well. Good riddance. It will not happen soon enough.

The middle ground is what we have now, only with sensible and enforced regulations that prevent the most egregious of greedy bastards from ruining the game for everyone else.

Yes, Christians have been duped into being cheer-leaders for evil policies and persons. But the answer is not fewer Christians or less involvement in politics - it is Christians realizing that abortion is not the only evil in the modern world, and that Capitalism is just as prone to abuses as any other form of social organization.

"No matter how paranoid or conspiracy-minded you are, what the government is actually doing is worse than you imagine."

--J. Edgar Hoover

(From the horse's mouth, that one!...)

"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

--C. S. Lewis (From this one we can surmise that C.S. would not be a socialist...)

"what the government is actually doing is worse than you imagine."

Roughly on that general subject...this is something you don't want to miss:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04032009/watch.html

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